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    October 14, 2006

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    Sanni

    I've only seen a part of this film. I don't enjoy Sanjay Lee Bhansali's sense of aesthetics. In fact I may be the only BW fan on this planet to find the songs in Devdas sort of awful in their visual opulence. I've tried watching Dola Re several times and it hurts my eyes - too much glitz.

    I have consider watching it all the way through but I've been advised against it because, and I quote, "it'll make you hate SRK". And because I still like King Khan despite some of his annoying performances and his occasionally arrogant fans, I don't want to risk hating him with this movie I know I won't like.

    I've probably given you this anti-recommendation before but don't make the mistake of watching Kal Ho Na Ho. Unless you're watching it for Saif Ali Khan (one of the best excuses to watch any film in my books), though for that guy, I could give you a list of at least 5 movies easily more worth watching than KHNH.

    carla

    Sanni, I know just what you mean about "Dola re", and as much as I rave about the naach-gaana in *Devdas*, "Dola re" is not among my favorites from the film. I think it is *interesting* as a kind of passing-of-the-mantle from the last decade's queen of Bollywood (Madhuri) to this decade's (Aishwarya) but it is neither my favorite song nor my favorite dance.

    I suppose I'd rank the Devdas songs/picturizations as follows:

    1. kahe chhed mohe
    2. chalak chalak
    2. maar daala
    2. silsila yeh chaahat ka
    5. morey piya
    5. dola re
    7. the other two songs - too much SRK "romance", not enough dancing

    But there is VERY little space separating #1 and the #2s.

    Daddy's Girl

    I personally like 'Devdas' - it's not a great film or anything, and Bhansali definitely failed in his ambition to create a tragic, romantic epic - but I think it definitely has its memorable moments. I really liked Kirron Kher's performance - especially the scene in which she dances and is spectacularly embarrassed at Devdas' house. And, as you've noted, Madhuri's dances are beautiful.

    I understand your distaste for the portrayal of the woman who is totally devoted to a throroughly undeserving and spineless man. In 'real life', though (at least in my corner of the world), not just in the movies, that type of blind and almost self-flagellating love that Chandramukhi exhibits is often praised and lauded as the epitome of 'womanhood'.

    In Paro's case of course, it's easier for us to 'believe in' her love for Devdas because we don't actually get to see 'her Devdas' (the one she grew up with and loved as a child) - for all we know he might have been a pretty decent type of guy when he was younger - and even if he wasn't, it's not unexpected that she would romantically turn him into one during his time away in England (or wherever he went). And I think it's also understandable that, just for the sake of their happy loving childhood, she would still care for him and want to help him even after he goes and turns into an idiotic lout.

    As for SRK, I guess I'm prejudiced because I like him a lot - but although many of his I'm-so-dead-drunk-and-so-in-love-with-Paro-and-I'm-so-going-to-turn-myself-into-a-royal-pain-in-the-universe's-behind scenes were terribly OTT, I think he portrayed the weakness and the lack of spirit and substance of his character (as Bhansali chose to depict Devdas) excellently. I particularly liked him in the homecoming scene and the scene at Paro's wedding.

    carla

    Thanks for your insightful comments DG! I especially appreciate your comments on Paro.

    I'm probably equally prejudiced about SRK because I don't like him very much at all - (: - but I do think this is the worst performance of his that I've seen.

    One thing I should say, though, is that I think *Devdas* is an example of tragically wasted potential - if I just thought it was an unredeemably dreadful film I wouldn't spend as much time as I do thinking or talking about it. I wish I could see the film that *Devdas* should have been.

    mitu

    madhiri you are the best actor in bollywod I don't see devedas but I see your movie koyla I realy like this movie After I saw this movie I like Indian movie madhuri you are very beutiful.

    carla

    Thanks for visiting Filmi Geek, mitu ... I don't know if Madhuri will read your message here but I have to say I'll be delighted if she does! (:

    anais

    j aime bien les flim indien

    a PPCC representative

    Completely agreed! The songs were gorgeous (Maar Daala being my favorite), but everything else was a train wreck. I'm sure it COULD be turned into something worthwhile and tragic, but this film at least is just awful aaaand terribly offensive to women, I think.

    AksFilmi

    Shah Rukh Khan is mindblowing as Devdas. He plays his character with such finesse and aplomb that it is sheer delight to watch him. He evokes the right kind of emotions in the viewers’ hearts, never once going overboard. He looks splendid and mesmerises the audience with his acting in many scenes. As a man madly in love, he proves that there could have been no better choice than him for the role.

    None Can Replace King Khan In Devdas - me was not impressed they way bansali Project his devdas

    Great Movie

    carla

    Well, AksFilmi, I guess what makes talking about movies fun is that we don't all agree about them! Thanks for your comment, hope to see you again soon.

    maxqnz

    Nice review again, carla. I love all things SLB in much the same way Mahmoud Ahmadinejad loves all things Texan, but despite finding this film to be an emotionally dead, ridiculously and pointlessly extravagant visual glut, I *did* like Dola Re. Maybe because I can actually stomach OTT for about that long. Also, I found this movie to be merely devoid of merit, and merely dislike it. unlike Black, which I found morally and ethically repugnant, and which I actively loathe.

    maxqnz

    I forgot to add that even though I knew it wouldn't happen, I was kinda hoping that there would be a happy ending to the love triangle, just without Paro. :-)

    Sorry, Freudian slip. I meant to say without Devdas. I must have been thinking that Paro was too good for either of them, and needed someone more like me.

    carla

    max, that's too funny. I often think that love triangle films would end up quite differently if I had written them ...

    Sundus

    Dear Carla,
    Thanks so much for your review! I couldn't agree more with your assessment of Shahrukh. I have wondered for years what is it about him that drives Indian women crazy? As a Latin American female in her mid-twenties, I can tell you that he comes out a little too feminine when trying to portray love scenes. And he is usually all about overacting and yelling; not to mention the psycho attempts and his preference for verbally and physically abusive characters. Indeed, pathetic.
    Devdas introduced me to Madhuri; which was the best gift ever! I still can't stop admiring her graciousness and charm. The opulence, as you rightfully describe, of the sets and the dresses! Madhuri looks like a queen, and makes Aishwarya look even fake.
    Thanks so much for your reviews, they are absolutely fascinating!

    Ashwini

    Hi Carla,

    As usual it was a fascinating read...your review & the comments that followed. I do agree with you when you say that Devdas is a dreadful film (besides Bhansali's over opulent handling). The core of the movie: a loser guy and two wonderful women pining for him is hard to swallow. But probably that's what made the subject so fascinating to film makers.
    I am presuming that you folks already know that the movie is inspired by yet another Bengali novel by the same name.
    A man who could have everything, if he only had the guts to stand up to his family, traditions and probably society drowns himself in alcohol instead. His childhood love resigns herself into marriage to a widower much older, takes on responsibilities of his grown children all the while knowing that her dreams of happy marriage, kids of her own, and maybe love etc. are crushed forever. Add a courtesan to the equation: who can never have any standing in the society, probably not even love just because she is a courtesan. It's a tragedy from start to finish with everybody caught in the web of their own, surrendering to fate without putting up a fight!
    In the original story, Paro & Chandramukhi never meet each other. In fact even Devdas never meets Paro once she's married - there was no way to do so. Paro, like any Bengali Bahu was confined to the inner most sanctums of the household...never to be seen by a stranger (as in an outsider/male member) again. Bhansali skewed the storyline just to encash on the Madhuri vs. Aishwarya cast.
    If you get a chance (and dvd) watch the older Devdas - starring Dilip Kumar, Suchitra Sen (as Paro) & Vayjayantimala (as Chandramukhi). The movie is black & white and is true to its Bengali roots. But you'll have to be patient because it drags at times. We saw the older version before watching the newer version just to gain a better perspective. Not that it helped. But it may redeem "Devdas" to some extent.

    Warmest Regards,

    Ashwini

    Hi Carla,

    As usual it was a fascinating read...your review & the comments that followed. I do agree with you when you say that Devdas is a dreadful film (besides Bhansali's over opulent handling). The core of the movie: a loser guy and two wonderful women pining for him is hard to swallow. But probably that's what made the subject so fascinating to film makers.
    I am presuming that you folks already know that the movie is inspired by yet another Bengali novel by the same name.
    A man who could have everything, if he only had the guts to stand up to his family, traditions and probably society drowns himself in alcohol instead. His childhood love resigns herself into marriage to a widower much older, takes on responsibilities of his grown children all the while knowing that her dreams of happy marriage, kids of her own, and maybe love etc. are crushed forever. Add a courtesan to the equation: who can never have any standing in the society, probably not even love just because she is a courtesan. It's a tragedy from start to finish with everybody caught in the web of their own, surrendering to fate without putting up a fight!
    In the original story, Paro & Chandramukhi never meet each other. In fact even Devdas never meets Paro once she's married - there was no way to do so. Paro, like any Bengali Bahu was confined to the inner most sanctums of the household...never to be seen by a stranger (as in an outsider/male member) again. Bhansali skewed the storyline just to encash on the Madhuri vs. Aishwarya cast.
    If you get a chance (and dvd) watch the older Devdas - starring Dilip Kumar, Suchitra Sen (as Paro) & Vayjayantimala (as Chandramukhi). The movie is black & white and is true to its Bengali roots. But you'll have to be patient because it drags at times. We saw the older version before watching the newer version just to gain a better perspective. Not that it helped. But it may redeem "Devdas" to some extent.

    Warmest Regards,

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